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    "constitutional Carry"

    Maddie Jun 17, 2015

    1. Maddie

      Maddie Getting There

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      Arkansas is fixing to become the 5th state to be a "Constitutional Carry" state following Wyoming, Alaska, Vermont and Arizona.

      "Constitutional Carry" means it is legal to carry any legal handgun, whether openly or concealed, without being required to get a permit/license from the government.

      Do you support or oppose the "Constitutional Carry"? Why or why not?
       
    2. APS

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      Don't live in the USA but it's easy to see why so many die from shooting over there.
       
    3. KyngzIndeyen

      KyngzIndeyen Regular Chatter

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      Genuinely, I don't think there's a single right or wrong answer to what gun controls there should be, and it's probably heavily dependent on culture. I don't particularly want our strict gun controls in the UK to be loosened, but I do appreciate that a gun ban in the USA wouldn't work at all. There would just be a massive blackmarket for weapons, and millions of people holding onto guns that they wouldn't be happy to give up.

      However, I guess these "constitutional carry" states will still have reasonable background checks?
       
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      To my mind, someone walking about with a weapon is someone walking about equipped and ready to murder -
      -all they need, and maybe even looking for, is an excuse..
       
    5. sharon

      sharon New Chatter

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      In my opinion, if someone wants to kill another person they will find a way. How many rape victims could have defended themselves if they could have scared off an attacker? How many home invasions could have been prevented had the homeowner only had a way to defend themselves and the property? If a person wanted to kill another person or even a group of people with a gun (or several guns) they WILL find a way. In my opinion if people want to carry guns then let them. If you don't like them... think about how relief you'd be if someone was holding up up at gun point and someone else with a gun saves you. Or don't. That's your prerogative.
       
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      In the news at moment a father gives his son a gun for his 21st birthday,within a month he's killed 9 people.
       
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      The issue is not the gun in my opinion if you look at the facts the guy had other issues (substance abuse meth/cocaine). That guy had serious issues and he probably would have killed black people due to this hate for them with or without a gun. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sted-twice-year-drug-trespassing-charges.html Do you know why news like this make it on the news? Because they don't happen very often and it catches people's attention.

      People that are saved by defending themselves don't make it on the news, because it's boring.
       
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      So the arguement is, that people - and that will include any potential criminals - will be allowed to carry guns openly - like in cowboy-style holsters, and this somehow makes the place safer ?
       
    9. sharon

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      So is your argument that "criminals" who have managed to get a hold of guns regardless if they have permission or not should be fought off by civilians with swords and machetes? ...and somehow THAT would make the world safer? Let's put away all of guns and not give anyone access to them no matter how responsible they are because it is guaranteed that criminals won't have access to them either. <---that does not make any sense. People who want to kill others will find a way to do so with or without guns. I say give the people a chance to defend themselves and let them carry. The police is never truly just 5 minutes away in an emergency situation. Most of the time it takes one warning shot to scare of intruders.
       
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      Well actually, here in Britain we find exactly that. It does make perfectly good sense.
      Guns are all but impossible to get hold of - but of course sometimes a criminal does acquire a weapon and for that reason, even though the police are not routinely armed, there are specialist firearms officers available.
      But that is the exceptional circumstance and the fact is that the vast majority of citizens in Britain have never seen a gun used in anger in real life.

      Of course murder does take place in Britain and it is my opinion that it is the deterrent that is lacking.
      Personally I think we need the death penalty, but most people here do not.
      Even the term of life imprisonment is very rarely actually life - usually the offender gets released on parole, sometimes after only a pitiful few years.
       
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      I think the 2 countries are poles apart when it comes to Guns.
      In the US you not only have to fear criminals but also the Police.